Is Dr. Gho's HST the real deal?

[Flowers]

I've read some articles and forums on various sites lately about Dr. Gho's Hair Science Institute and HST procedure. I believe what that is is the transplantation of stem cells in the follicle and the regeneration of the donor area. This seems promising especially since his institute was sued for making false claims but won their case as the ruling found they were not lying. Here's a link:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-3375.html

Remember he also apparently just did multiplication on Wesley Sneijder

[Dutch_Dude]

you would expect that those people on gho's website would have a much fuller head of hair with the technique that he's using. instead, his patients look like they may have used finasteride for a few months and that's it....you would expect much better results. of course, when oyu look at wesley sneijder it looks good, but...i really don't know why. let's not forget that wesley's hairloss wasn't that severe.

[Follicle Death Row]

Best to assume it isn't unless he proves otherwise. Let's not get our hopes up too high. While the literature suggests that it is possible it is difficult to know whether he is actually doing what he says he is doing. He may actually be having some success but I am somewhat skeptical that he is getting the amount of donor regrowth he claims consistently. Perhaps his work on the sample of 5 in his paper was meticulous. You may not get the same treatment if you go to HSI. Like all FUE procedures, the skill of the surgeon is paramount. If you gave all the surgeons the same 0.6mm triple wave needle not all of them would have the same success. I know Dr. Gho does not perform the extractions on all the patients himself. Rest assured if he has cracked it all the other doctors will figure it out soon enough. I think we need to wait this one out.

You might also be interested in Dr. Cole's FUE work with Acell. He is claiming 54% donor regrowth which sounds promising. I do believe the industry will eventually get a handle on donor regeneration to some degree. Let's call it donor expansion because I'm not sure the high 90s is consistently possible. We'll probably still have a finite amount of donor (perhaps 10,000-15,000 by FUE rather than the 5,000-6,000 we have available at present) until Aderans or someone else pulls off cloning.

I think you'll find most doctors are hesitant to comment on Dr. Gho's recent claims. His reputation isn't the best but they're booming in the Netherlands at the moment. He's like the boy who cried wolf, even if has pulled it off, most aren't going to believe him straight off the bat. Many false dawns in the past.

In principal it seems possible, in practice it seems extraordinarily difficult. My gut feeling on this is that he's getting some regrowth but perhaps not what he claims. No results to shout about yet anyway. Time will tell.

[Flowers]

Best to assume it isn't unless he proves otherwise. Let's not get our hopes up too high. While the literature suggests that it is possible it is difficult to know whether he is actually doing what he says he is doing. He may actually be having some success but I am somewhat skeptical that he is getting the amount of donor regrowth he claims consistently. Perhaps his work on the sample of 5 in his paper was meticulous. You may not get the same treatment if you go to HSI. Like all FUE procedures, the skill of the surgeon is paramount. If you gave all the surgeons the same 0.6mm triple wave needle not all of them would have the same success. I know Dr. Gho does not perform the extractions on all the patients himself. Rest assured if he has cracked it all the other doctors will figure it out soon enough. I think we need to wait this one out.

You might also be interested in Dr. Cole's FUE work with Acell. He is claiming 54% donor regrowth which sounds promising. I do believe the industry will eventually get a handle on donor regeneration to some degree. Let's call it donor expansion because I'm not sure the high 90s is consistently possible. We'll probably still have a finite amount of donor (perhaps 10,000-15,000 by FUE rather than the 5,000-6,000 we have available at present) until Aderans or someone else pulls off cloning.

I think you'll find most doctors are hesitant to comment on Dr. Gho's recent claims. His reputation isn't the best but they're booming in the Netherlands at the moment. He's like the boy who cried wolf, even if has pulled it off, most aren't going to believe him straight off the bat. Many false dawns in the past.

In principal it seems possible, in practice it seems extraordinarily difficult. My gut feeling on this is that he's getting some regrowth but perhaps not what he claims. No results to shout about yet anyway. Time will tell.

Yeah that's interesting about Dr. Cole because I've looked into his work and he's very impressive and if he's able to regenerate donor hair then that may have sealed the deal on who I'd want as my HT doc

[Dutch_Dude]

Dr. Cole is doing really a great job. And you are right, Dr. Gho only performs the surgery on the famous Dutch people who went to him . Wesley Sneijder and Gerard Joling...

[Dutch_Dude]

Actually, the Netherlands doesn't even have a "good" hairclinic...the only good ones are in Belgium: ProHair (in Antwerp I believe) and Bijan Feriduni of course, who has really amazing results.

[Follicle Death Row]

Dr. Cole is doing really a great job. And you are right, Dr. Gho only performs the surgery on the famous Dutch people who went to him . Wesley Sneijder and Gerard Joling...

Yeah I watched some of the surgeries and I didn't see Dr. Gho doing any of them. The techs were just reefing out the grafts really quickly, machine gun style. Fat chance of good regrowth. Having said that, Sneijder's hair is looking good.

Feriduni is a FUE master. I hope he can get donor regrowth with Acell. It would make me think very differently about pursuing surgical hair restoration.

[RichardDawkins]

My hope is also on other FUE experts to get donor rerowth because

Gho may work but

1) Too expensive
2) Too time consuming
3) Low Graft sessions
4) Some things remain very foggy till today

[Dutch_Dude]

Yeah I watched some of the surgeries and I didn't see Dr. Gho doing any of them. The techs were just reefing out the grafts really quickly, machine gun style. Fat chance of good regrowth. Having said that, Sneijder's hair is looking good.

Feriduni is a FUE master. I hope he can get donor regrowth with Acell. It would make me think very differently about pursuing surgical hair restoration.

Yes, Feriduni is...how you English-speakers say, the shizzle .

I think that the future does look brighter than ever. With ACell and Aderans coming up...and replicel...

[Dutch_Dude]

My hope is also on other FUE experts to get donor rerowth because

Gho may work but

1) Too expensive
2) Too time consuming
3) Low Graft sessions
4) Some things remain very foggy till today

Yes, did you also see the way they place the new hairlines...? It's terrible. I'm pretty sure that other experts laugh when they surf on their website...

[Flowers]

Wait so is Dr. Cole really getting 54% regrowth? Like actually regrowing 54% of the hairs he uses from the donor site? That's damn near a cure especially for guys with a realistic and reasonable HT goal and guys with NW2-5 loss + thick donor hair.

[RichardDawkins]

Thats the point here, Gho may work but "Its clear that he plays his monopol here" by making people dependable on him, which to me is just not right. I think its not ethical to let people come every year for 500 Grafts, which then are placed in the first session with a 30 density (ridiculous) and can only be highered to around 50 grafts per square centimeter.

To some people 50 grafts would work but to the majority its not an option, 70 density is the minimum, at least for a hairline to make it look natural beyond the point of "illusions"

Thats my big problem with Gho, if he would change those ethics, i would directly book him, but not under those circumstances. Maybe a good thing yes, but at a high price in time and life. If someone has the key to "infinite" donor he or she should just offer the normale FUE sessions with the normal FUE density and thats it.

Because under normal FUE cicumstances wit infinite donor, well you would be done after 2 big transplants and one small one or so, the rest would be just personal preference to get a monkey hairline or whatever.

But with Ghos expensive mini sessions.......**** you would need over a decade as a NW5 to get this fixed. And this is no option because then we all agree there would be other possibilities.

Also Gho claims that those HST grafts are so fragile and thats why you cant plant them as close as possible *cough* *cough* why not using Acell as well as a supporting element.....

@Flowers : Naaaaaaa i am honest this is not a cure to me because the consitent percentage has to be increased. My break it point is around 80% guaranteed because in this case i wouldnt even have any problems when i turn NW7 (which would be impossible with that much regrowth)

Also you could say hair plucking works as well, so yeah we have a cure BUT there has to be more routine from the docs here and then yes then we will have another standard which can also help females as well because its an universal thing then.

The only downside is, that we could have this solution already at hand if some of the NOW doing people would have paid a little more attention to the hair loss community a few years ago ;-)

[Flowers]

Thats the point here, Gho may work but "Its clear that he plays his monopol here" by making people dependable on him, which to me is just not right. I think its not ethical to let people come every year for 500 Grafts, which then are placed in the first session with a 30 density (ridiculous) and can only be highered to around 50 grafts per square centimeter.

To some people 50 grafts would work but to the majority its not an option, 70 density is the minimum, at least for a hairline to make it look natural beyond the point of "illusions"

Thats my big problem with Gho, if he would change those ethics, i would directly book him, but not under those circumstances. Maybe a good thing yes, but at a high price in time and life. If someone has the key to "infinite" donor he or she should just offer the normale FUE sessions with the normal FUE density and thats it.

Because under normal FUE cicumstances wit infinite donor, well you would be done after 2 big transplants and one small one or so, the rest would be just personal preference to get a monkey hairline or whatever.

But with Ghos expensive mini sessions.......**** you would need over a decade as a NW5 to get this fixed. And this is no option because then we all agree there would be other possibilities.

Also Gho claims that those HST grafts are so fragile and thats why you cant plant them as close as possible *cough* *cough* why not using Acell as well as a supporting element.....

@Flowers : Naaaaaaa i am honest this is not a cure to me because the consitent percentage has to be increased. My break it point is around 80% guaranteed because in this case i wouldnt even have any problems when i turn NW7 (which would be impossible with that much regrowth)

Also you could say hair plucking works as well, so yeah we have a cure BUT there has to be more routine from the docs here and then yes then we will have another standard which can also help females as well because its an universal thing then.

The only downside is, that we could have this solution already at hand if some of the NOW doing people would have paid a little more attention to the hair loss community a few years ago ;-)

Well I just hope that in the next few years we can get the regrowth count higher. I don't think that's unreasonable to think

[RichardDawkins]

Hey Cole got 54% (average) by accident so i would assume, when it is possible to get 54%, thn its highly likely to get up in the higher 90 regions as well ;-)

[Flowers]

Hey Cole got 54% (average) by accident so i would assume, when it is possible to get 54%, thn its highly likely to get up in the higher 90 regions as well ;-)

Well if so then I'm not worried about histogen or anything like that. We'd be pretty much set and I wouldn't be surprised if acell makes advancements like that (above 75% regrowth) before histogen hits the market. I hope!